Comments on: Proprietary software is from dark ages http://krishworld.com/open-source/proprietary-software-is-from-dark-ages/ imaging an open world Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:15:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pieterhttp://krishworld.com/open-source/proprietary-software-is-from-dark-ages//comment-page-1#comment-62 Pieter Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:02:10 +0000 http://www.krishworld.com/blog/open-source/proprietary-software-is-for-dark-ages/#comment-62 Why should you, as an employer, continue to profit from the work I perform as your employee?Because that's what the employee gets paid for. There's little or no point for companies to exist when whatever is written by their employees isn't owned by them, it'd be like paying them for setting up little companies for themselves. Why should you, as an employer, continue to profit from the work I perform as your employee?Because that's what the employee gets paid for. There's little or no point for companies to exist when whatever is written by their employees isn't owned by them, it'd be like paying them for setting up little companies for themselves.

]]> By: krishnanhttp://krishworld.com/open-source/proprietary-software-is-from-dark-ages//comment-page-1#comment-37 krishnan Tue, 15 May 2007 16:54:47 +0000 http://www.krishworld.com/blog/open-source/proprietary-software-is-for-dark-ages/#comment-37 Very true. Very true.

]]> By: krishnanhttp://krishworld.com/open-source/proprietary-software-is-from-dark-ages//comment-page-1#comment-61 krishnan Tue, 15 May 2007 16:54:47 +0000 http://www.krishworld.com/blog/open-source/proprietary-software-is-for-dark-ages/#comment-61 Very true. Very true.

]]> By: Ryanhttp://krishworld.com/open-source/proprietary-software-is-from-dark-ages//comment-page-1#comment-48 Ryan Tue, 15 May 2007 16:17:01 +0000 http://www.krishworld.com/blog/open-source/proprietary-software-is-for-dark-ages/#comment-48 I think the real issue, once you boil it down, is whether or not MS has the right to patent "addition". It's one thing to copyright entire works or suites of software, but quite another to say "I own the for loop". If I'm not mistaken, one of their patents was dealing with regular expressions - their grounds for dealing with Eudora's infringement.It doesn't stop at trivial dark age inventions, but extends to whether or not someone has the right to "own" mathematical expressions and algorithms - something that patent law strictly forbids. I understand wanting to invent something and maintain some form of ownership so you can make a living - I'm not entirely against all forms of IP - but what I don't get is when people think they have the right to prevent others from using math just like them to solve problems. The patentable parts of software should be the tools and languages themselves, not the algorithms we use within them. I know - that sounds backwards, but so is software. I think the real issue, once you boil it down, is whether or not MS has the right to patent “addition”. It’s one thing to copyright entire works or suites of software, but quite another to say “I own the for loop”. If I’m not mistaken, one of their patents was dealing with regular expressions – their grounds for dealing with Eudora’s infringement.

It doesn’t stop at trivial dark age inventions, but extends to whether or not someone has the right to “own” mathematical expressions and algorithms – something that patent law strictly forbids. I understand wanting to invent something and maintain some form of ownership so you can make a living – I’m not entirely against all forms of IP – but what I don’t get is when people think they have the right to prevent others from using math just like them to solve problems. The patentable parts of software should be the tools and languages themselves, not the algorithms we use within them. I know – that sounds backwards, but so is software.

]]> By: Ryanhttp://krishworld.com/open-source/proprietary-software-is-from-dark-ages//comment-page-1#comment-60 Ryan Tue, 15 May 2007 16:17:01 +0000 http://www.krishworld.com/blog/open-source/proprietary-software-is-for-dark-ages/#comment-60 I think the real issue, once you boil it down, is whether or not MS has the right to patent "addition". It's one thing to copyright entire works or suites of software, but quite another to say "I own the for loop". If I'm not mistaken, one of their patents was dealing with regular expressions - their grounds for dealing with Eudora's infringement. It doesn't stop at trivial dark age inventions, but extends to whether or not someone has the right to "own" mathematical expressions and algorithms - something that patent law strictly forbids. I understand wanting to invent something and maintain some form of ownership so you can make a living - I'm not entirely against all forms of IP - but what I don't get is when people think they have the right to prevent others from using math just like them to solve problems. The patentable parts of software should be the tools and languages themselves, not the algorithms we use within them. I know - that sounds backwards, but so is software. I think the real issue, once you boil it down, is whether or not MS has the right to patent “addition”. It’s one thing to copyright entire works or suites of software, but quite another to say “I own the for loop”. If I’m not mistaken, one of their patents was dealing with regular expressions – their grounds for dealing with Eudora’s infringement. It doesn’t stop at trivial dark age inventions, but extends to whether or not someone has the right to “own” mathematical expressions and algorithms – something that patent law strictly forbids. I understand wanting to invent something and maintain some form of ownership so you can make a living – I’m not entirely against all forms of IP – but what I don’t get is when people think they have the right to prevent others from using math just like them to solve problems. The patentable parts of software should be the tools and languages themselves, not the algorithms we use within them. I know – that sounds backwards, but so is software.

]]> By: krishnanhttp://krishworld.com/open-source/proprietary-software-is-from-dark-ages//comment-page-1#comment-47 krishnan Tue, 15 May 2007 00:42:46 +0000 http://www.krishworld.com/blog/open-source/proprietary-software-is-for-dark-ages/#comment-47 The topic in question is not whether there should be govt. control or not. It is an altogether different issue. The issue of govt. doesn't come in this discussion. It is about companies monopolizing markets through tools used in dark ages. The topic in question is not whether there should be govt. control or not. It is an altogether different issue. The issue of govt. doesn’t come in this discussion. It is about companies monopolizing markets through tools used in dark ages.

]]> By: krishnanhttp://krishworld.com/open-source/proprietary-software-is-from-dark-ages//comment-page-1#comment-59 krishnan Tue, 15 May 2007 00:42:46 +0000 http://www.krishworld.com/blog/open-source/proprietary-software-is-for-dark-ages/#comment-59 The topic in question is not whether there should be govt. control or not. It is an altogether different issue. The issue of govt. doesn't come in this discussion. It is about companies monopolizing markets through tools used in dark ages. The topic in question is not whether there should be govt. control or not. It is an altogether different issue. The issue of govt. doesn’t come in this discussion. It is about companies monopolizing markets through tools used in dark ages.

]]> By: Sum Yung Gaihttp://krishworld.com/open-source/proprietary-software-is-from-dark-ages//comment-page-1#comment-46 Sum Yung Gai Mon, 14 May 2007 22:48:45 +0000 http://www.krishworld.com/blog/open-source/proprietary-software-is-for-dark-ages/#comment-46 What would happen is the governments of that time period (Galileo's and Newtons, that is) would simply have taken them by force, "for national security reasons. What's wrong with you, are you not loyal to the State?" Government officials have historically done and abused whatever they think will increase their own personal power. And thus, those governments would've kept such "subversive" ideas like gravity and the calculus hidden away.So yes, we (of European descent, that is--not the Incas, Aztecs, or Chinese) would still be in the Dark Ages, and now you know why. What would happen is the governments of that time period (Galileo’s and Newtons, that is) would simply have taken them by force, “for national security reasons. What’s wrong with you, are you not loyal to the State?” Government officials have historically done and abused whatever they think will increase their own personal power. And thus, those governments would’ve kept such “subversive” ideas like gravity and the calculus hidden away.

So yes, we (of European descent, that is–not the Incas, Aztecs, or Chinese) would still be in the Dark Ages, and now you know why.

]]> By: Sum Yung Gaihttp://krishworld.com/open-source/proprietary-software-is-from-dark-ages//comment-page-1#comment-58 Sum Yung Gai Mon, 14 May 2007 22:48:45 +0000 http://www.krishworld.com/blog/open-source/proprietary-software-is-for-dark-ages/#comment-58 What would happen is the governments of that time period (Galileo's and Newtons, that is) would simply have taken them by force, "for national security reasons. What's wrong with you, are you not loyal to the State?" Government officials have historically done and abused whatever they think will increase their own personal power. And thus, those governments would've kept such "subversive" ideas like gravity and the calculus hidden away. So yes, we (of European descent, that is--not the Incas, Aztecs, or Chinese) would still be in the Dark Ages, and now you know why. What would happen is the governments of that time period (Galileo’s and Newtons, that is) would simply have taken them by force, “for national security reasons. What’s wrong with you, are you not loyal to the State?” Government officials have historically done and abused whatever they think will increase their own personal power. And thus, those governments would’ve kept such “subversive” ideas like gravity and the calculus hidden away. So yes, we (of European descent, that is–not the Incas, Aztecs, or Chinese) would still be in the Dark Ages, and now you know why.

]]> By: krishnanhttp://krishworld.com/open-source/proprietary-software-is-from-dark-ages//comment-page-1#comment-45 krishnan Mon, 14 May 2007 22:15:31 +0000 http://www.krishworld.com/blog/open-source/proprietary-software-is-for-dark-ages/#comment-45 Exactly Hugh. It is my point. My favorite quote in this regard is that if people like Newton and Galeleo had adopted these patenting nonsense from day one, we will still be running around naked exchanging potatoes for meat. Exactly Hugh. It is my point. My favorite quote in this regard is that if people like Newton and Galeleo had adopted these patenting nonsense from day one, we will still be running around naked exchanging potatoes for meat.

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